This is episode-5 of the calm conversation with Josie Gibson from The Catalyst Network, inspired by Robert Poynton’s book “Pause – You are not a To-Do list“. The approach is simple: we both read chapter-5 of the book and highlight three sentences, and mark the words that resonate most. These sentences and words are the triggers for a very slow-paced conversation on whatever comes our way. No tricks, no gimmicks, just a gentle and calm wandering and meandering of minds.
Chapter-5 is about Culture (of Pause)
https://soundcloud.com/peter-vander-auwera/josie-petervan-poynton-chapter5
Here are Josie’s three sentences:
Older, more measured rhythms continue to exist… and the here and now is appreciated more for itself than as a means to get somewhere else.
They come in order to reconnect to a place that mediates a pause for them. For one, it is a rock by the river Pelayos – quite literally, a touchstone. Where might you find yours?
Burning Man: ‘This is pause as a suspension of the status quo, designed to try things out, not slow them down
And here are my three sentences:
There is no possible way to hurry any of this. Whatever you do, it takes the time it takes. The only hacks around here are made with axes.
They rarely say anything new; talk is not about relaying information, it is a way of seeing others and being with them
If you aren’t able to pause to consider or explore alternatives, it is extremely difficult to change direction
We covered a wide range of topics from scaffolding, “Go-Bush”, touchstones, freedom to be, Shakespeare, Burning Man, suspension (not smashing) of status quo, the calm “Corona Walks” by photographer Stephan Vanfleteren, the need for diverse lenses, and Budha’s beginner’s mind.
Some useful links mentioned in the conversation:
- Photographer (and writer) Stephan Vanfleteren “Corona Walks”
- “Don’t Skip out on Me” by Richmond Fontaine.
Episode-1 is here. Episode-2 is here. Episode-3 is here. Episode-4 is here.
These are very calm conversations; so best is to take a pause, install yourself in a quiet corner, and enjoy!
Peter & Josie